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Reverse Speech technician to apply their trade to
revealing the truth that "Zen" refuses to disclose.
A celebrity & public figure ~ no problems!
Just do your thing and publish the results.Pretty Please!
if he personally ever fucked children.
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~Theme Songs from the Shit Storm~
Since Donnie Boy was so deprived of music for 30 years
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picked especially for him with a little help from my friends.
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"Don't Let the Devil Take Your Mind"
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Having no sense of ones creepiness ...
These Creepazoids are Simply Everywhere
another Donald? How timely & appropriate.
ReplyDeleteI just noticed Shift Frequency site owner Gillian has written a post outlining her position on this topic, but sounding like an apologist for ZG and excusing it as "Let he who is without sin..." WTF?
ReplyDeleteHi everyone
DeleteWell for those who are finding it impossible to post comments on Zens site:
Please feel free to post them here.
The only comments that will be "moderated" are those which are abusive, hateful or just plain asinine.
If you want your voice to be heard:
PARASITE ALERT comments section is open for business!
NOTE:
DeleteThe 'comments' App has a 4000 character limit:
Longer comments will be "serialized" into multiple segments.
This ain't no time for sound-bytes!
Tells you ALL you NEED to know...doesn't it?? IMHO 'Shite Frequency' is now and always was...BENT...and not in a 'good way'...if you can 'apologize' for this cretin...then perhaps we should look at YOUR background 'Gillian'... A xo
DeleteI'm not entirely sure what to make of Gillian. Until now have always had a pleasant if not somewhat distant 'relationship' where I'd send her posts of mine I thought her audience might like. Most she posted, some not, super shiny-as it should be. When this storm broke, she really didn't care for either of my first 2 posts on ZG, and seemed to be solidly in zendons corner. I have zero interest in trying to convince closed minds, who has the time for that exercise in futility?? I just try to provide honest content & information to help the open minded critical thinker arrive at their own conclusions. Seeing the zendon support group gather around him is very revealing, as is the roaring silence from alt media giants like Rense, Icke and the others.
DeleteDid you ever see the popular scene in older movies of the door being thrown open, the lights turned on ...revealing adulterous lovers being caught in the act, with the sleazy PI shooting pictures??? That reminds me of this situation. The secret was let out, perhaps even intentionally, (since sales of his book are really low) Maybe he decided to bail out of the alternative movement in a way other than that of a failed writer/guru...^ raise a huge stink that would be sure to divide and weaken the alt community; essentially setting factions against each other?? So the disclosure is the scent of betrayal in the air, and when the "hysterical witch hunters" barged thru the door, we caught the whole lot of them in bed together:Don, Rense, Icke, Max, Gillian, and the cyber sluts on CCN-all doing the centipede in bed together.
Did we really expect any of them to carry the story or take a stand on the side of morality and honest journalism???
Of course we did, and when they didn't they showed one and all that the whole ball of wax is made out of highly polished turds! For all these years we've given our respect to these bottom line jackals who care ONLY about not loosing any readers, or donations. "They" all scrubbed all evidence of zendon from their sites (except Gillian) alright, but then have remained SILENT.
Silence is not always golden. Among journalists and writers it is the cowardly shade of YELLOW!!
By Stephen Estes (aka freefall)
ReplyDeleteThere are levels of degeneration for the human being; a sort of order of descent. We know intuitively what resides at the lowest levels and are repulsed by it. But I am of the opinion that given the right set of circumstances and a good dose of specific types of childhood traumas, any of us have the potential to go south of our inner compass and become unconsciously captured by very dark forces.
This is why I choose not to judge others too harshly no matter what is revealed about them. In ways that I will never fully understand, such experiences may be necessary for them to awaken, even when taking into account what damage they have done to others along the way.
But there is an exception to my rule. I have no mercy for the psychopath.
As it is becoming more apparent, I now see that the one that calls himself Zen Gardner is a Satanic psychopath. I can only laugh at my foolishness for ever seeing him in any other light.
Time to dissect this spiritual master criminal by looking at my last communication with him:
freefall 16/08/2016 at 6:28 pm
Zen,
This is not about your past. You know I’m not here to judge that. What many of us are concerned about is your present stance as to why you submitted your “confession.”
This is about your lack of integrity now not 20 years ago. You’ve come this far; it’s time to heal this open wound with the truth whatever the outcome. I can only say that you will never be completely healed until you do so.
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§ Zen Gardner 16/08/2016 at 9:02 pm
Why do people think there’s some big dark secret that I need to confess? There isn’t one. What I said is the truth and more details will be forthcoming if they’re helpful to the process. It’s people’s imagination, and morbid fascination for the dark stuff. I was a good guy then and I am one now. I progressed. Haven’t we all? This all baffles me, while at the same time I understand it. The dynamics are amazing, but the knee jerk stuff is super troubling. Where are we all really at here? Lots of work to do. Love you.
ONE WORD...ACCOUNTABILITY!! A xo
DeleteFreefall's comment part two
ReplyDeleteThe big dark secret Don is that you only admitted to being a previous member of an incestuous child sex cult when you were threatened with exposure if you didn’t come clean. Also, in your “My Missing Years” confession, you neglected to tell us that you played the public role of a pedophile’s “beard” for a number of years, moving up in the ranks while telling us that you knew nothing about what was going on behind the scenes. How high up do you have to go to still not realize what you are covering for? Twenty-seven years is a long time to be in the dark. Did lightning strike you at some point and give you the level of intelligence you have now as opposed to the obvious mental midget you tell us you were then?
Even after all you’ve done, if you had come clean about your true motivations behind your confession, although I could no longer be a part of your blog, I could at least retain some appreciation for our time we shared and wish you the best. That’s what someone with any vestige of conscience left would have done. But you must retain your lie at all costs if that is the path you have chosen. I’m not sure you even have a choice anymore as you probably sold your soul a long time ago. The psychopath has limited options once caught and none of them good.
“I was a good guy then and I am now.” If you would have said that you were a piece of shit then and a good guy now I would find it much more believable. There was absolutely nothing good about what you were serving then—but neither is there now.
“What I said is the truth and more details will be forthcoming if they’re helpful to the process.” Unfortunately Don, the truth you told us was much more limited than we were first led to believe. But then again, your previous PR job makes you good at damage control which is all about controlling the information that is disseminated. But you are right about more details coming out. I’m just not sure they are going to be to your benefit.
“The knee-jerk stuff is super troubling.” Dear reader, is there anything in my comment above that strikes you as a knee-jerk reaction? I’m simply trying to get him to do the right thing. My initial knee-jerk reaction was supportive of this man.
“Love you.” I spit out your fucking “much love” mantra like a poison being expelled from my body!
Don has posted my articles on-line and perhaps that had something to do with clouding my judgment. But we know that Satanists are often involved in acts perceived as both good and bad in order to confuse their victims as to their true intent. Come to think of it, I now find that I am far from the only acolyte whose work first found its way on the internet by going through him. Something about that makes me cringe.
But what was your true intent, Don? As is typical of your kind, the attainment of more fame and fortune is most likely at the top of your list. You were beginning to reach the upper echelons of the Truth Movement, being a guest on the talk-show circuit as well as speaking at large events.
It’s a shame that Steve at Philosopher’s Stone and the person you confided in about your past life rained on your parade. Your desire to rule the world came to a crashing halt.
For those who fell for this charlatan (including myself), don’t be too hard on yourselves. You were in the presence of a master. He could take over for Hidden Hand. Hell, maybe he is Hidden Hand!
Freefall comment
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As I’ve always been one to give the devil his due, I must commend you Don. It takes a high level of skill to get past me these days. You have made a conscious choice as to whom you will serve and you are probably closer to the darkness than I am to the light. After all, it’s much easier. Just do what thou wilt. But I made my choice when it was presented by one of your kind a long time ago and we were never really on the same path. You just acted like you were.
Like many of us, you have been given the powers to tap into the Morphic field. This has to do with your high level of commitment to what you serve. It’s also what makes you so dangerous.
No matter. You know that we must destroy you now, don’t you? Did you think those of us so inclined will not find out more about you? There’s people in this line of work that will make sure that you never show your face around here again. I suggest you go crawl back under the rock you came from. You are an evil man and quite possibly a child molester to this day. Given enough time, everyone will know it.
In closing, I wish to thank my true brothers and sisters in our continuous quest to seek the truth, including waking me up to this vile creature as well as those of us who will now take up the sword against this common enemy. This includes many contributors and commenters on the Zen Gardner site who will continue to awaken to the fact that he is an imposter. It is a valuable lesson to learn and a time to walk in humility. That’s something that this clown has never felt.
Due to the strings that are probably dangling from the limbs of this Luciferian puppet, be prepared for personal attacks from half-truths to outright lies as a way to take the heat off their minion and/or to wreak havoc on the movement.
But at this point, they would probably be better off just cutting him loose.
Your game is over Chester. You just don’t know it yet.
Who else? There is more than one in this group of initiates. This shit will hit more than one fan. A genuine apocalypse. Great comment, good to see your integrity!
DeleteGreat Freefall! As an occasional commenter, I am exceedingly proud of your dedication to the quest for truth. I stand beside you, as well as the Many others. This monster in disguise will not continue. As a league of truth beings he can not win. That is the point. Wrong game monster, with the wrong players.
ReplyDeletehey freefall .. I am here to Judge ,and that Don is a goof diddler ..Period
ReplyDelete"leader"27 years wtf enough said
good to hear from you Peeks. Whatever lines we have drawn, Chester has slithered past them.
DeleteGet a rope!
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It would seem to me that not withstanding (in spite of) the 'truth community' the Real truth community has ousted, and will continue to oust these frauds.
ReplyDelete~READER NOTICE~
ReplyDeleteThe express has been having some rather unusual 'glitches' with the comments application. Several readers have emailed me that the app. is not allowing them to leave comments; Some have tried multiple attempts with no success.
This has happened only once or twice in the distant past.
This sounds just a little too familiar to me that I
should be experiencing the same exact problem people are
having at the ZG site. HMMMM!
I tried to paste in a readers lengthy comment in 3 segments, but the system allowed only one segment to go thru...then it just vanished a few minutes later.
THAT shit has never happened before, so it just makes me wonder if perhaps someone is showing their appreciation for the work I've been putting up on the web?
Please do continue to post your comments, (system permitting) and also;
The system has a maximum limit of 4000 characters, including spaces. With the nature of what has been revealed it's understandable that many readers have a good deal to say, as the comments are running long. I suggest writing your comments on your computer's word processor, use only minimal punctuation, and work it up to a 4000 word entry; then paste it into the comments box all at once.
If you have more to say, rinse & repeat.
Apologies for the problems Thanks for your Patience!
Chautauqua
Good work everyone who has helped to shine the light into this murky story and its heir ...if he was at all innocently lead into a cult then surely he would have talked about this from the start and been honest..especially with all his heart to heart rhetoric..seems like the fire monkey has got into the zen garden with a vengeance and a vision of Truth Liberty and Justice that was never missing in those "missing years".Bless Up 1&All x
ReplyDeleteHanuman's Revenge!
DeleteDEAR READERS
ReplyDeleteAs a result of recent posts of mine this site in now under a cyber attack from none other than ZEN GARDNER who so far has managed to stop all of your comments from getting to me since around ten last night. Oddly enough, the one, lone, single comment to get thru arrived about an hour or so ago, from "Rollo" one of those darling Zenophytes still drinking mthe cool aide. Hey Rollo, Google "Jonestown"! And thanks for the comment because it just illustrates my point rather PERFECTLY!
So folks, that is what's going on. Along with my regular activities today, I'm taking the time to do something I promised I would NOT do, and that is to write any further posts. Wasn't gonna do it zen, I was happy to walk away having said my piece, but you ain't having any of that so, you have forced my hand ~ exactly as you did with Steve. You'd think a guy would LEARN, eh folks???
So guys; I am multi-tasking like an octopus on Jamaican coffee, fighting fatigue,
and a sociopath at the same time. Gr8 work if ya can find it.
Stay Tuned, don't touch that dial
and buckle up...we're going for a ride!
The new post is oddly enough titled "Freedom of Speech"
and it ain't about American heritage...
It WILL BE POSTED TONIGHT
So if you do not see it,
or the link takes you instead to a 404 page
Extrapolate.
Blessings
Chautauqua
Hey there. I am Carla and was a fan of Zen's and yours a couple of years ago. I stopped visiting Don's site a couple of years ago, but would still brouse once and awhile for some uplifting reading and to peek in on old "friends". I am saddened and feeling duped by this. I am wanting to reach out to you, Kitty, Alex and Peek because we connected and had a real friendship happening, as much as people can on the internet. I think that we all had good learning connections because of the Zen Gardner site. I just can't believe that I was so naive to not see the cult:manipulator aspect of the whole thing. I have children who are my deepest understanding of love. I know Kitty does too. I opened up my heart on that site and trusted. We all go through our own stuff. I felt like family there and now, I have a bad taste in my mouth when I think of what "family" is to a cult. So sad and disillusioned
ReplyDelete...and disappointed with myself for not seeing it.
Thanks for giving a space to process it. -Carla
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DeleteHello, welcome, and THANK YOU for expressing your feelings.
It's being a crazy night here - many irons in the fire dealing with the damage done to at least 3 sites that I know of.
SEE this is how sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissists operate; and the truly unsettling thing is that Donnie Boy is showing classic indicators of all three! Their only spiritual imperative is to control the narrative; and to accomplish that they will do anything.
Your insights are always welcome HERE, that is so long as Donny Boy approves of your thinking!
Peaceful Blessings
Haha. Thank you! Keep pressing on. I only wish I knew how to get in touch with Kitty. I am sure she is devastated. I always knew I would be welcome here. You gave me great insight on healing stones and aliens. What else could a friend want? ;) Carla
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DeleteI just posted a comment from Kitty I'm moving fast tonite, got something on all 4 burners plus the hot plate and camp stove, so don't know exactly post she was commenting on...hold on...segmented message 4U
Connect with Kitty in the comment section of "Zens Garden" the first one I did.
DeleteFar Out!!!! Go connect!! :)
What on earth makes you think I had anything to do with this ?
ReplyDeleteWell I shall refer you to a comment posted under your name yesterday.
Deletedon't recall the time or which article, but it was kinda pro-donnie bnoy
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DeleteHere are some of the front covers of the brochures put out by "The Family" over the years. Naturally every member undoubtedly saw them. How could Zen's eyes have beheld these and his spiritual self not rebel? Very long link and only works if you copy and paste, but here's a peek":
ReplyDeletehttps://www.google.com/search?q=The+Family+International&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5hIjpttPOAhVN7mMKHUlgCy0QsAQIOA&biw=1475&bih=765#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACSi4YLnMCy0SIjjdYQGrH_1uwNJElysvydE-Uu2mO-WPaxOgF6Z1DsehpIEt9IZeNeM6ScEIbVQJw8wRibv7AKuPgCioSCd1hAasf-7A0EYUntl_1wE-mkKhIJkSXKy_1J0T5QRmc56XGQ54NEqEgm7aY75Y9rE6BHD54SZznygICoSCQXpnUOx6GkgEYHRMVazASh6KhIJS30hl414zpIRoiWDnKOXd7IqEglwQhtVAnDzBBE8jJ4uU1eeHioSCWJu_1sAq4-AKESxquFEHLmfi&q=The%20Family%20International
"Les Visible's response was so spineless, milk-toast, lukewarm. His 'I'm not taking sides,' has no commitment to stand for what's right, and as you well know, Henry, sometimes that means standing alone. Here are a few quotes from Les Visible's article:
"I don't know what to think. I wasn't there."
"...I don't know Zen Gardner so I've got nothing to say about him."
"I wish Zen Gardner well."
"I thank God that I have been protected most of the time from the potential bad consequences of what might have been but never was."
"I'm not taking sides in this affair."
"I feel even worse for the people who have been long time supporters of Zen Gardner."
"You're in my prayers Zen."
"Les Visible says he's a 'strong believer in compassion and understanding' and that he especially feels for 'the people who have been long time supporters of Zen Gardner' but hardly a word about the child victims of the cult, those who need that compassion most. I believe that any who are not coming down hard on this issue, and are only issuing a slight slap on the wrist delivered with a warm hug, are leaving the door open for more abuse. I guess Les Visible has to stay in a good light with the big guys, like Icke, Rense, Rappoport, etc. Oh well, I still think more will keep surfacing."
http://smurfswacker.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/family-of-love-promo-comic.html
ReplyDeleteThis is how the equating of love with sex was sold in comic book form. The text can be enlarged to readable size by clicking on each page in turn.
Full on brain washing for the susceptible, idealistic young.
On Zen Gardner, Les Visible is still playing milk-toast. And he censors commenters who take him to task. Gate-keeping at its finest. His followers think it's all hunky-dory because they don't get to see where he gets challenged or called out. Some extractions from what he wrote on his blog today regarding Zen:
ReplyDelete"...there are no facts related to specific wrongdoing on his part."
"I have yet to come across evidence that he directly engaged in any of these offenses."
"I am very disturbed by a rush to judgment without either a smoking gun or a smoking cock."
Does this sound like a person of compassion?!! Tell it to the children, Les.
You were perhaps expecting something more from the prince of word salad??
DeleteNow we know where HE stands. He'd Would rather protect his connections with the big sites in alt news than take a hardline firm stand against this shit. if Less has not seen any evidence of wrong doing on dons part, it only means he has not looked for it. He looked the other way instead, Now ya know why he calls himself a DOG poet, he fails to mention from which end of the dog his poetry comes. Worth remembering.
Yeah, he needs to find a cave and stay there for a couple of years, as does Zen, and Rappoport, and any other "protectors."
ReplyDeleteI am sick in my soul....some years agoe I supported Zen and donated a few dollars.......later on, I thought there was something empty in Zens words...But now....I am sick in my soul....
ReplyDeleteWhat's this all about, really? I mean the effort to expose Zen Gardner. I have been at it with a vengeance, and I'm asking myself why? And one clear answer keeps comin' through: For the kids. For them. Those who were abused and those who still could be. There should be seven billion fists in the air. This ugly, creepy molestation-damage must be seen for the great disgrace it is and how it's messing with our evolution to grow more beautiful and aware in our freedom without some control-demon directing our minds and bodies. I can't say for certain, but I sense that in the days and weeks to come some will come out of the shadows and support the children by saying more about Zen's involvement, some persons of conscience who have some info about those 27 years. As for Zen, I don't know if he's reachable, in terms of being encouraged to do the right thing. Like all life, he has a God-being within, but his narcissism may keep him from accessing it. A few days ago I stopped into a cafe' and in one corner there was what was called a blessing tree. Next to it were colored pens and strips of card-stock paper and patrons were invited to write whatever or whoever they wanted blessed on the paper and then hang it on the tree. I wanted to write something important for the kept and molested children but somehow my hand wrote: God Bless Zen Gardner. I almost shocked myself, because that day, having just found out about his hidden past, I was pretty much hating him and disgusted by him. Then I saw what I wrote and realized that if the blessing worked, he would go deeper and come clean. Well, we'll see. A blessing carries hope.
ReplyDeleteLink for Icke's message today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqDiPgBaw9k
ReplyDeleteAm only part-way through it but look at what he says at the 10 minute mark:
"People think that when they say things about other people that they're saying things about other people. They're not. ... What they're doing is making statements about themselves. They are expressing something within them that is making them externalize it in the way they do when they think they're attacking someone else. If you keep putting that stuff out then you'll draw to you the consequences of that and you'll keep doing it..."
Dave tries to scare us with "consequences." Ha!! The consequences for not speaking up to protect the innocent would be far greater. Now what about when he attacks all the world corruption? Does it reflect HIS inner being/motive? Are we to just sit back and take it Dave, and not show what we perceive as right or wrong to just let abusers have their way with us? Are rules different for you? You get to criticize but we don't? Dave, here are a couple of famous quotes for you from Marting Luther King Jr. Yeah, just 'cause Martin wasn't perfect doesn't mean he didn't contribute much good:
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
This ZG thing is the tip of the iceberg. For all we know, all of the upper echelon of this movement have been compromised. Most are bought and paid for.
DeleteDavid Icke stated this on his own website regarding Gardner:
Delete"Sean Adl-Tabatabai is a former webmaster at Davidicke.com who left years ago to start an alleged ‘alternative’ website in California called Yournewswire.com which has become notorious among serious researchers for its clickbait headlines with no sources to support the headline. Every click = money.
He appears to hate me with a vengeance and has taken every opportunity to try to damage me through his ridiculous website and it must have been incredibly frustrating that he has not been able to do so – not least because people can see his motivations from 100 miles away.
Now he has published an outrageously libellous attack on me with regard to a researcher I have never even met called Zen Gardner with whom I have done ONE interview on Skype while he was on the other side of the world.
What is said with regard to Jimmy Savile is also extraordinarily ridiculous and the work of a child, not a journalist.
Zen Gardner has written recently about a cult he was involved in for many years and Mr Adl-Tabatabai, through his clickbait specialist, one Baxter Dmitry, couldn’t wait to make him my best buddy etc, etc., in a bid yet again to discredit me by association.
It is so blatant, it is laughable.
Zen has many close friends and websites all over the web that have published articles and could rightly be called close friends while my connection has been to post articles on my headlines page and a few emails here and there in which he has said kind things about my work.
Endless Internet radio shows have interviewed Zen over and over and he has attended many conferences around the world, but the ‘article’ is focused entirely on me for no other reason than to add to the clickbait money tree with my name in the headline and to satisfy an apparently desperate need to damage me in any way possible."
HE REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY ASSOCIATION WITH THE GUY...
He has had as much interaction or less than any of us really; he was responding to the same man we thought we knew- the projection emitted- not the reality
I take back what I sent you the other day C. Those micro-expressions are worth a thousand words.
ReplyDeletefreefall
Got a ton of 'em, getting more every time I data mine that video
Deletethe downside is a real ball buster though cause I spend hours a day looking that rat bastard in the face, and by now all I wanna do is...
HULK SMASH...I just wanna punch his lights out. Simple as that.
I might just get the chance...if my postings piss him off enough
I'd love that. ZG gets ass handed to him by guy in wheelchair...
Well, I feel like joining the fray, as well. And here's a ps on Icke: He says that he questions everything. ... Says that there are some people who say that 'Whatever I've been told, it's now got to stand up to my scrutiny or otherwise I'm not accepting it in my reality.' Dave says that that's where the cutting edge is. Well gee, Dave, how does that fit in with what you said earlier regarding those of us who call others out, that we're only expressing what is our own issue? You say we need "street sense." Street sense, as I know it, does not self-censor or censor others. You can't stop anyone from investigating and sharing what is found. You can't call investigating "attacking." You sound conflicted.
ReplyDeleteHere's damage control, homogenized with pablum and stupidity:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yu5N-e1lG0
I have been reading or hearing many comments on the net from Les Visible and others regarding Zendon, things like, "I can't decide yet." "Still don't have enough information." Well, just wanted to say.... to all the people on the fence, while you're up there, the house is burning down. Thanks for all the help!! I'm hoping that's a PICKET fence you're luxuriating on and that those pickets end up (certainly pun intended) right where they belong. Please don't yell for help.
ReplyDeleteYeah, they used to call it "tough love." Today it sometimes gets a bad rap, like it's not understanding or forgiving enough, when really, it's set up to foster positive change and renewal, and a win/win for ALL involved. I do not fear harshness; it's often a clarion call when many other calls have gone unheard. And sometimes the mission of the high-road is to shake things up, stir the pot, un-stagnate the stagnation, bring fire where everything is saturated in soppy avoidance or denial. Not a time to play nice, and not a condemnation for we know that all players can at any time redeem themselves. It sometimes takes fire.
ReplyDeleteJust finished reading an article posted at Zendon's site today. New-age pap, to be sure, the 1975 variety. It's entitled: "Why It’s Time To Accept Humanity’s Power of Creation and The Soul’s Journey" by Michael Forrester. Seems to have been written or posted with the direct intention of letting Zendon off the hook. Here are a few quotes from it:
ReplyDelete"There Are Absolutely No Victims"
"Evil Is a Human Perception Not A Universal Reality"
"...your life is the way it is because of the choices you have made–or failed to make."
"There are no right or wrong choices."
"...this is where the human ego cannot fathom tragedy and horrific events as choice. This is the point where most of humanity cannot separate emotion from an understanding of a soul’s journey."
"THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG."
Emotions get a bad rap, especially in some metaphysical circles like Course in Miracles, etc. To me, emotions are life-given, they come with birth. They're why we're able to smile, why we're capable of frowning, why we have tear ducts, why we have fists, etc. Emotions are our inner-barometer. They give us the story; tell us when something's on or off. Yeah, we can get entrenched and stay in one place too long, but the initial outpouring of the emotion is usually connected to gut-truth. I love emotion and trust it. We don't just get happy or upset for nothing.
So the writer claims "there are no victims." Tell it to the children, buddy. Even though children are souls having learning experiences, they come into this life vulnerable, trusting the elders to protect them/keep them safe, and then trust is blown to bits and replaced with betrayal.
Then the writer asserts that "evil is a human perception." Well yeah (duh). We happen to be human at the moment.
Love does not look the other way. Love calls a spade a spade. Love owes a perpetrator the truth and love provides an avenue for accountability. Love does not look the other way.
Anony@ 11:45 AM~
DeleteThis I think is a very astute observation on your part; and kudos to you for going near that self-serving cult website. 18 days into this shit storm & his site has been reduced to this:
Don/zen "Creepyhands McWeasel Eyes" using it as his platform to lash out at everyone who is either accusing or ignoring him. Anyone in those categories is, according to him, "misguided,spiritual elitist,& NOT awake.
Typical of a sociopath.
BREAKING NEWS this very morning (Aug. 27)! ! !
In addition to being banned from facebook, Jeff Rense & David Icke and a few other sites...The Open Mind conference next month in Denmark has cancelled ALL his appearances, The Full Circle Project has tossed him under the bus as well-gave him both boots!! The good news just gets better, because in a fresh self-serving post today "Zen" announced his site will soon be shutting down!!! Say's he's gonna go underground in a yellow submarine and start a new blog, "The Octopus's Garden". Even in global defeat and rejection, he still claims he's a good guy and a victim.
That is one very sick, terrified scumbag, and before I get a ton of hate mail, My apologies to all scumbags.
Thank you, Chautauqua. And was this just hoped-for good news or is Zendon really shutting down his site? Could not find where he announced that. If true this is a victory, not just in dethroning someone who can continue to do harm but primarily for kids everywhere. And yeah, we're all kids.
DeleteOh, it wasn't in the body of his post, he's too sneaky and cowardly for that. He makes the comment in a reply to a 'fans' comment on the article. Many are now speculating that everyone has left the site and don/zen is now playing ALL the parts; as both site host, AND every "commenter"
DeleteI'll try to paste in his comment:
Zen Gardner 27/08/2016 at 9:46 am
So touching 5D. The site will be phased out soon but I’ll be in touch personally and let you and others know what I’m up to.
No sinking ship here – they’re just making me a submarine for now while they have their world war of the artificially awakened.
Only good can come of it – all part of the revelation.
As you said, truth lives on. I’ve given it my all and Universe is giving me another new life and opportunity to keep transforming. It’s all good. Much love always! Thanks for everything, you been a real pleasure and asset to the site and blessing to many. x!
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Iam SaumsIam 27/08/2016 at 1:50 pm
Thanks again, Chautauqua. Maybe his transformation will be to become the newest Teletubbie:
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And here's more damage control here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwsrABuB8qY
These two girls (sorry, I cannot yet call them women 'cause they haven't yet risen to that) refer to Zen's detractors as "dragons feasting on hate and fear." They say that we're "gang-stalking." I'm only 20 minutes in but it feels like a script is being read, one that will attempt to make sure we don't trust our instincts and just go along with excusing Zendon. The girls say we're a "lynch-mob - with no investigation!!" They're putting forth the "no victim has come forth" meme and disconnecting from the big picture of decades of long involvement win what could be the worst cult of all time. They're saying that Zendon did the "mature, adult thing." He is thanked for speaking the truth.
I guess because of the nausea it induces, I have to take this in intervals, but I'm now going back to hear more, barf-bag in hand. Jeeze!!
Here is what I think is a very pertinent question: The "interview" he did a couple days ago with Angela-Disney...He is supposedly there to speak from his heart and answer some of these burning, unanswered questions, right? So why does he need to wear his glasses for THAT, unless of course he is reading his talking points from a screen or legal pad??
DeleteThe smell of this thing gets worse by the day. Only someone very insane would do & say the things he is and not realize how fucking transparent he is. He has come unhinged.
Stay tuned, this cartoon ain't over yet...
C, '5DAngel' on zen/don's site is supposed to be (has always been) a PINK avatar...
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DeleteDarlin, I'm an old hermit living on a mountainside...so can you translate that for me as am unfamiliar with the expression :o
Thanks,
C
In response to above comment:
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"ChautauquaAugust 27, 2016 at 1:06 PM
Oh, it wasn't in the body of his post, he's too sneaky and cowardly for that. He makes the comment in a reply to a 'fans' comment on the article. Many are now speculating that everyone has left the site and don/zen is now playing ALL the parts; as both site host, AND every "commenter"
I'll try to paste in his comment:
Zen Gardner 27/08/2016 at 9:46 am
So touching 5D. ..."
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5D Angel - her avatar to the left of her comments - was not green. It was always pink. That is not 5D Angel...evidence of don/zen posing posting as 5D...?
OHHH! that kind of Avatar. lol,
DeleteI thought you might have been referring to some new-fangled social media thing or another that I hadn't yet heard of. Yeah, big time indication that he is just making this shit up as he goes along-and indeed is the only one left posting at JW site-desperate to keep his delusion afloat, even if it's in his own mind.
For heavens sake, what will it take for the men in white coats mto just grab him & lock his child molesting ass in jail. I'd say he deserves 50 years...for every child he let fall into harms way, and 100 years for each child he himself abused & molested.
Adaline~
DeleteAnyone who moderates comments on a website knows that there is this little box right there for the moderator marked "REPLY AS:" and when opened it gives a nice variety of 'camouflage' options, including a field for any damn name you wish, including Anonymous. They made it so damn easy for him. It's just him at 'just wondering' now, everybody else has fled the bonfire of the vanities and he spends his chilly nights hiding out in the south of France, guzzling wine to douse his internal flames of destruction as he writes new comments to the last poison post he puts up.
Zen isn't the only one, Google a dude named "Marc Gafni" another spiritual guru who likes sex with children too. That guy has been exposed and taken down a number of times, but he just goes dark while re-inventing himself then pops up again to start molesting children again. The worst part is, he is in California and I can''t get to him. But you see my point, the world really does have monsters.
Here is an excellent article on Mr. Marc Gafni, and 'Wetiko': Lamentably this blog server doesn't allow active hyperlinks, so you'll have to paste or type in the address, but believe me, its worth it!!! Great read.
Deletehttp://www.awakeninthedream.com/marc-gafni/
A little more on girl-talk... Now we (Zen's detractors) are being called "hypocrites" who haven't worked through our "shit." We're part of a "psy-op," a "sting," "a coordinated attack." Girly says that we have a right to no longer read Zen. Gee, thanks, but girly, did you know we have an obligation to warn. If you're traveling down the road and there's a hidden cliff ahead, wouldn't you want some caring voice to alert you? We have an obligation to warn, especially those of us who've had our innocence torn out. And girly accuses us of jumping on "the hate train." Doesn't know that what appears to her as "the hate train" is REALLY The LOVE TRAIN!! It's pullin' into the depot to announce that we are part of this monumental effort to end horrific (and condoned) abuse, and to expose the perps, the condoners, the deniers, the ignorers, the brain-washed jerks. The LOVE TRAIN is loaded with strong people who still understand right from wrong. Even though we've been done to at every turn, we hang on for dear life to conscience, to integrity, to natural law, to golden rule, to sermon on the mount. We'll not abandon the victims. Girly says that this is all our "projections," that someone is "funding" us, that's how we're motivated. Ha! She can't imagine that this motivation is coming from some very deep and fed-up place that is simply saying, NO MORE. NO FRIKKIN' MORE!!.
ReplyDeleteWell, still only half-way thru...
You are far, far braver than I: exposing yourself to such toxic ooze as that. I applaud you. That Dutch video I got most of the pics of him from; I still haven't listened to it, doubt that I ever will.
DeleteI went thru that video 4 times to get the pictures of his micro-expressions~took just over 500 frames from screenshot, at 15 mouse clicks per image, just to save it! Comes out to 57,045 clicks. Then there is the 8,800 words I typed in total (4 posts) on the subject. So if I should suddenly stop replying to comments, don't worry, Zen didn't send an assassin...I'm just fucking tired of his face, his lies and my computer ;)
Thanks
What has come as a result of this is good-site shut down (good riddance-the sooner the better), Icke/Rense scenario is good but I feel that they should be much more vocal and action oriented in this scenario (perhaps it is off scene), as they are high profile and gave him a platform. Full Circle-great! I am sure that there were many people who were concerned regarding his possible ongoing involvement there, etc, etc. I really hope that this does not end here though, as he is still out and about. Great Work Chautauqua. I would be hard pressed to do the work that you did-but I certainly appreciate it in a Big way (those micro expressions are brutal and deadly), So Thank-you to You. Thank-You also, to all of the many caring and loving people as well, who make their voices and hearts heard in an extremely disconcerting and extremely uncomfortable situation. That takes heart and guts. To know that there are people with such a high degree of thought and morality, not to mention love- maintains my strength and courage to love and care without censor.
ReplyDeleteThe work I did, was because I felt compelled to do so, and not so much from a sense of morality; it felt more like a spiritual imperative. Kinda hard to explain. It's like I've been hauling around this big ass can of gasoline (modest skills) and finally one day I get invited to a weenie roast (witch hunt). Just seemed a natural kind of place to lay down my load. (pouring gas on fire).
DeleteOthers did the really hard work of digging up the documentation and proof.
What I have done wasn't hard or difficult. It WAS boring and monotonous however, and had the decidedly dark downside of having to look at that fucking face way more than anyone should have to except his future cellmate, who I just pray is the father of six.
The asshole even has a video out about how the truth is the ultimate liberation or some shit- the unmitigated audacity!!
This will be a huge blow to the alternative community, some who are very new to it will turn away from the spiritual path thinking its no different than all the other hypocritical fakes, and others like me who have been on the path for so long now, well some of us may well just say to hell with all of it & quit looking for spirituality on the web. I cannot think of a more perfect government counter intelligence operation (cointelpro)-(MK Ultra) etc. It's gonna have an ongoing ripple effect~~ the full damage may not be known for some time; but it won't stop "US" spiritual folks.
I may however, take a break from everything until someone comes out with an upgraded computer. Screw the smart phones and tablets, and FUCK spell checker, Give me a computer with spellFIX!! then watch me set some shit on fire!!
Many sincere thanks for your kind words.
I understand the spiritual imperative. That is also how I have felt in all of this. Perhaps a crossing. Perhaps a seperating. Digging deep into the discomfort aka horror. Morality comes first and quickly moves into the spiritual because that is where the growth is. True growth feels like death.
DeleteMay you have only good things in your life, Chautauqua.
ReplyDeleteNo Longer Conned by Don, 'Zen Gardner' Revealed
http://msdiagnosed.blogspot.com/2016/08/no-longer-conned-by-don-zen-gardner.html
What the hell, it's a fire-sale going on over there anyway. I might as well put it out there before it disappears into the ether.
ReplyDeleteRather prophetic in more ways than I understood at the time.
http://www.zengardner.com/end-of-age/
Iam Sham, Sham Iam
ReplyDeleteAuthenticity? spewed vomit
Spiritual Elitism
Put that back in your pocket
Sorry Mr Idiot
This ain't about our stuff
Abused children's experiences
Tell them to just be tough
Oh wait someone already did
Mr Forrester pass me your bib
Its all our choice, the sign up I see
How about free will choice, you dummy
Which Trials ….
Striving for comments
Melee hope girls
Zen bus gone like a comet
Sting operation
Don’t make regrets
Bridges burning
Rolf Harris still learning
This ain’t salem
Just the watchers whaling
There’ll be no flippidy
On the zen sinking shipity
Even if we have Max Igan
Make a stand for the sick zen clan
He now questions the future of the species
Answer psychopaths need deceasing
And now on his own witch hunt
Trusted healer who had to confront
Zen go..bells, whistleblowers beware
Become the target, that’s not fair
No, she saw like many of us did
The etheric snakeskin pop off his lid
But if he’s in truth he needs no defence
All that scurrying shows his nonsense
So as you flee take some time
Reinvent for the clickbait dime
You will seep through your clever words
And we’ll be here watching with our verbs
Very prescient poem, Freefall. Especially the stanza before last. I hope the eyes of Les Visible, The Lukewarm Fence-Sitter, and John Rapport, The Enabler, and Max Igan, The Other Enabler, can read your words. Maybe then they'd understand what a disappointment they've been in this effort. Mush, to say the least.
ReplyDeleteits a conglomerate to protect
ReplyDeletethe overall movement they detect
but when people are afraid of boat rocking
devils legion comes a door knocking
time will tell where this all goes
and those who leak like Mr Snowden
will be treated like movement traitors
who only tried to help escape the gators
P.S. Should have entered as a reply. Freefall, I was referring to this poem:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.zengardner.com/end-of-age/
Yes the subconscious calling it out
ReplyDeletePrecognitive, the poets they do shout
Great work freefall
And you Chaut you've Done your bit too
The abused know you are true
Thanks Patrick. It's an obligation for me as I was a part of the ZG site at one time. I can't let it slide.
DeleteLike your poetry also.
I am new to this site. I know nothing about it. Only found it because of the Zendon revelation. There is something here that feels right/real. Something born of cojones, something that can't be untrue. I just reread all four of the posts here relating to Zendon:
ReplyDeleteWhat's Growing in Zens Garden?
Parasite Alert
When Heroes Fall
Freedom of Speech
Wow! What a body of work/tireless investigation, and a place for many to bring their outrage. The comments and the poems are powerful, important, inspiring, and honest; they open the door to greater good. I certainly hope this place stays available and continues to grow and show. Chautauqua, you are authentic. Sending back that $700 was an heroic act and shows you can't be bought. Cojones, as we know, is a metaphor for courage, for bravery, for no-nonsense standing up. Without cojones we are metro-sexuals, politically correct and allowing everything. Without cojones we are sissies, boring and bland and predictable. Without cojones we perish, and take with us our nobility of spirit. I raise my glass to all who have grown a pair, man and woman alike. Let not the castration of the world come to our door. We still think for ourselves and remain adept at outing rats. We are intact, and in fact, stronger from the battle.
I really appreciate your feedback and input. The way you describe my blog site makes the last 4 years of writing feel like I accomplished more than what I started out to do, so thanks for that.
DeleteIt's all about being "An Authentic Human Being". If one includes authenticity in their own spiritual practice, as a way of living on this little blue world it tends to draw others of a like quality together. To be sure, being authentic (keeping it 100%) you will catch flak from those around who you're making uncomfortable, fuck 'em - be authentic anyway. By doing so you will draw around you a cadre of other authentic people. With this group you may not cure the world of any misery, but you'll all feel better for having not sold out or bought in.
Sorry, just found this today. I appreciate you, too.
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Chautauqua, you mentioned earlier a possible compilation of the poetry expressed here, as I recall. I would love to see that. Poignant verse.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the show anon!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WdlrqDIsgA
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I don't understand this vid intention, but thank you for the welcome.
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What is with this Ariel character ?
ReplyDeleteNow elderly, former hippie still living the lifestyle, eccentric ( from personal observation); permanently inhabits Don's site with steady flow of commentary. He appears to feel a personal connection/relationship with Don, and this well before the "revelations" of recent weeks. Both speak of being "musicians", and he may still be.
ReplyDeleteHe certainly talks a load of nonsense. And what happened to that annoying Alex character ?
DeleteI seem to remember Alex saying he was abused and has spent years and years recovering……..
DeleteI've also witnessed Alex playing the " I'm ill " sympathy card.
DeleteReferring to Zendon's latest article today entitled, Drop the Rope
ReplyDeleteNice try at Business as Usual, Zendon, but... Cannot help but respond to a few of you assertions which I placed here in quotation marks:
"If we’re too busy fighting amongst ourselves, physically or intellectually, we’ll never see that bigger picture where the true problem truly lies."
We're not fighting amongst ourselves, Zendon; we're fighting demonry and putrid deception.
"If you don’t want to play their insidious, pointless, draining and distracting games of tug of war, simply drop the rope and walk away."
Anyone with even the slightest awareness about basic psychology can see this is blatant passive aggression. Sure, just walk away; that'll solve everything. Ever hear about skeletons in the closet, Zendon? Well, while you're 'walking away,' they're in there having babies. Yeah, multiplying like bunnies. Better to open the door before they break it down.
"Without rising above this imposed playing field and understanding the world we’re already living in we certainly cannot find the way to change it..."
To 'rise above' is to see clearly. To see clearly is to understand one's place in what is seen, and in that rising, to do the right thing. IT DOESN'T MEAN IGNORING WHAT IS OR ABANDONING AN IMPORTANT CAUSE!!
"It’s important to not get caught up in futile and ultimately destructive contests of any sort... ... That’s how the system works. Getting everyone caught up in lower vibrational interactions..."
Consciously entering into a 'contest' is not 'getting caught up.' It's a deliberate act that says, 'I'm goin' in. Somebody has to confront this and try to stop it.' And you may judge it 'lower vibrational,' but some would deem it heroic, the work of God, the stirring of Spirit, It's a charge many feel has been placed on their souls, one urging the protection of innocence. You may one day understand.
ps to Zendon: You wrote about 6 new articles today. That must be some writing team you got there. Do they all were black suits and dark sunglasses? Hmmmm......
ReplyDeleteSide-note: Today, Icke posts Igan. Seemingly indicative of supporting his (Igan's) wishy-washy stance? Seemingly so. To Igan: Denial is soooooo insidious.
What about Julian Rose ? ...... seen here hobnobbing with the pedophile Prince.
Deletehttp://www.radiownet.pl/publikacje/umierajace-pszczoly-i-gmo
If everybody just quit going to those sites, say, in some kind of massive protest, that would send a message. Since our disapproval means NOTHING to them, perhaps if people quit going there PERMANENTLY they'd find it hard to stay in BUSINESS.
DeleteWhen an ex-cult member of 27 years who worked up to a leadership position that he has never been specific about starts and continues a blog centered around spiritual principles, why would we not question the underlying motivation?
ReplyDeleteLies of omission is what buried this man and anyone who supports him at this stage is either a right-brained zombie or a sell-out themselves.
freefall
Have just been relistening to the May interview. Not just lies of omission, but what appears to be outright lies, as he recounts his "life story" telling of travels, living in 23 countries, working as a writer, editor, in TV, always implying this was as an individual. Now that we know that time was spent in a controlling cult, running from place to place to avoid the law, we have two versions of the "truth". And they are total opposites! ( What writing was there to do in this cult, as they were supposedly cut off from the outside world? Did he write and edit for Berg, the MO letters perhaps? Did he help Berg make the videos? Did the cult have TV, in fact?)
DeleteAlways mentions being in Iran during the Revolution, and five stages of his "awakening", but we only hear about three of them, I believe. Were the others when he was in the cult? These are just some of the questions which he refuses to address, unable to recognise that having been mislead and lied to, one is left with no option but to doubt everything he says. This is very sad, because he has brought it on himself. He should have been truthful from the start about his half a lifetime in this heinous cult, then he would have garnered some respect from the get go. As it is, many are filled with disgust to think that he would so knowingly mislead those seeking truth.
Haven't finished listening, but much of it is book promotion.
Sad to see Icke and Max losing their powers of discernment; are they also caught up in the Cult of Zen?
And then there is Don practicing the deflection/projection which Bernard and Randy have so well-described in their articles. Suspect the website will be going nowhere anytime soon, if he is feeling supported and justified. What a pity.
And the sufferers and those with ruined lives never get a mention, for whether he was directly involved or not, he has egotistically claimed leadership in the cult which destroyed many lives, and therefore he bears responsibility. That is a leader's role. Where is the remorse? No, it is all about him.
You just described the word SOCIOPATH !
DeleteNo one sided comment censorship going on a Zendon's garden right now or anything like that !!!
ReplyDeleteHere's Zendon's ballsy comment today:
ReplyDelete"The reaction regarding me is revealing psychotic behavior – a healer gets traumatized and shares confidential information then blames, and charges the client for trauma received, pseudo-spiritual wanna be’s display almost pathological symptoms, and activists contact their groups to rally against someone without any conclusive evidence of wrong doing and who has done nothing but attempt to infuse the world with enlightening and empowering information, having gone through many traumatic stages in his life. But that’s apparently unforgivable. And all this within a so-called 'awake truth community' – you can’t make this up. It’s just as psychotic and upside down as this external matrix and its multiple mechanisms they so clearly see – they think. It separates mind knowledge from heart knowing. Yet they can’t see that, nor respond intelligently never mind openheartedly to people trying to introduce reason and understanding into the equation but bat them away. I’ve seen it over and over during this. Suddenly they become very hard hearted people who used to say all the right things and have no willingness to listen to different perspectives. (watch out for that) Surreal – but it’s the infection at work, it’s in more people than we’d like to think, and things like this bring it all out for all to see. And that’s a good thing."
He calls normal, healthy reaction "psychotic." He places blame everywhere but on himself. He ad-homs, with name-calling: "pseudo-spiritual wanna be’s, hard-hearted." Attacks our intelligence. Says we've "no willingness to listen." Yeah, Zendon? Who heard the cries of the those whose lives were devastated? Who heard their pain? Only those willing to listen! So sell it elsewhere. The true "infection" is in those who still worship at your alter.
Many thanks for the updated report. I really appreciate it since I will no longer visit that site - saturation point! Kind of a bummer since thats the very best place to get his latest delusional quotes.
DeleteI ain't gonna run out of revealing pics of him any time soon; so keep those delusional quotes from the insane one coming~ please!
On behalf of all your fellow Hysterical Witch Hunters; Thanks!!
Hey ZenDon, how 'bout you shut your fucking mouth over there until such time as You have made real and accountable reperations in the lives of the innocent that You harmed. Here's an idea-take all of the money from your book and the misappropriated donations offered to you and give that to the victims so that they have a better chance of healing and recovery. Afterwards, you may write that down for the record as to prove your 'enlightening and empowering information'. Or is that request to 'psychotic' for you?
ReplyDeleteMan, we gots the righteous anger. Creator gave us anger for moments just like these. I likes to turn the tables over. On board, and hopefully up to the task. Love is sometimes very strenuous. It certainly likes friends.
ReplyDeleteFor all those kids:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuWAGT9ZkYE
TWILIGHT ZONE
ReplyDelete(voice of Rod Serling)
Picture if you will, a small chalet
in the south of France; where we find
a shallow, arrogant and broken man...
who not so long ago was ascending to stardom;
taking his place alongside the Alt. news giants
on the world wide web.
This is the story of how the arrogant fall from grace,
and how an evil past can never be escaped.
Our story begins with one Donald Ferguson;
who is just now coming to see that those who
abuse children sexually in a cult for 30 years
do not get to become spiritual superstars on this,
or any other world.
From the cellar window we see him, hammering away
at his keyboard, in the small hours before dawn,
with light from the screen revealing his enraged and
tormented face. Is he attempting to explain his
evil past by answering righteous questions?
No, he flatly refuses to do that; but rather is busy railing
against his accusers as though he is the victim in this tale.
The fraudulent guru has just posted his latest tirade against
the gatekeepers who called him out on his evil deeds.
Saying things only a madman would believe were true.
Reaching for his third bottle of wine he begins the task
of impersonating those who have fled his cult website,
by fabricating comments under their names, and then,
answering them. Should we pity this fool who cannot
see how pathetic he has become?
No!
Never pity the victim
of his own stupidity,
not here on this earth
and certainly not
in the twilight zone.
Just saw on Rense's site the Icke will be tonight's radio guest. Guess they've been talking behind the scenes; one avoider embraces the other. Well, we'll see how doublespeak manifests; or maybe we'll be shocked and they'll come clean about their horrible procrastination.
DeleteRense has David Duke for KKK Grandmaster, oh, I mean Senate ads on his site. WTF??
DeleteYes, of course. He has to attract left, right, center, off-center, fringe, and all willing asylum dwellers. How else to sell us those products and keep him in the bucks?
DeleteExpect business as usual from the itchy & scratchy show; keeping in mind their prime directive is revenue. It's 2 weeks 2 late for those 2 to speak at all on the subject. If they mention it at all they'll be opening themselves up to questions about their deafening silence.
DeleteIn transparent honesty, I've never been impressed much with Icke. It's 3 or 4 things about him that don't jibe for me, he's a walking incongruity.
Alt. news giants across the web are still ignoring the story as they quietly ghost Mr. McWeasel Eyes. They won't take a stand either way in fear of losing half their readership-nor will most of them have anything to do with him from now on. They are banking on the hope that the stink & the story will fade from view, along with the artful dodger.
Did you ever pull a thread from clothing, only to find the whole thing starts to unravel? This is kinda like that, by pulling on this one smelly thread, we begin to see a network of corporate interconnections.
The only "prophets" they acknowledge are 'margin' & 'motive'
Business as usual.
Yeah, and I have a vision in my head, or rather an audio of the show tonight where Rense and Icke first pat themselves on the back promoting each other. There will likely be some talk about prez election. Then they announce they have some special guests joining in and that would be Les Visible, Jon Rappoport and Max Igan. Cheers all around!! Let's go guys. Let's congratulate ourselves for valiantly holding up the status-quo. What a grand job we have done just by doing NOTHING!! Easy work, no? Hey, how about we all meet up next week at Zen's house for cocktails and cushions. Jeff could bring his Magnetico sleep pad for us to share. Yes, it's so grand that we speak the truth, but only some of it. That little bit we hold back makes all the difference. Otherwise we might lose our dearly beloved followers. Yeah, we are the goods, we are the best, and we all agree with Les when he says how much he loves God. No one could possibly love God as much as he does. Oh, one last thing. Those kids, the ones who some claim were repeatedly molested, well, we figured out a way to help: just buy 100 bottles of Jeff's vitamins and we'll send the kids one free bottle of vitamins to share. Or you can just donate to any of our sites and we'll make sure that all proceeds stay with us. Err, we mean with the children. As Zen would say, Much Love, and don't forget to keep protecting and elevating the status quo. It's the way to go. It's the way to go NOWHERE!
DeleteThat's quite the guest lineup for the show; I can see the bunch of them sitting bare-assed on a picket fence. When the "leaders" of the alt. news community fail this grandly it should be a huge signal to us all.
DeleteShow me how their combined silence is anything other than censorship.
Perhaps the whole lot of them should tear down their sites and shut the fuck up. While this story rips thru our community, Rense is obsessed with Muslim gang rapes, AND trying to get appointed as Trumps propaganda minister. As far as I'm concerned they're as useless as zendon, and can go disappear along with him. Time for everybody to start boycotting all these players who remain silent. When their hit counts take a plunge in massive numbers, perhaps they'll get the message. The alt. news sites that are ignoring this entire story should have some decent competition, but they currently don't, cause it takes a bag of dough to finance and feed such operations, and for that, most of them have bought in and sold out. Rense was once, a long time ago, THE place on the web for alternative news...today it looks like a click-bait site on steroids...nothing but sensationalist headlines worded to make you click to see...STOP DOING THAT!!! Just quit going there, period. Same sit with Icke, Waking Times, and all the others too chicken shit to take a stance. That ain't journalism, it protecting your bottom line.
Simple as that!
When sewage begins coming out of your water tap, do you just keep on drinking it, or do ya go find some FRESH fucking water?????
Not only is it censorship, it is Gaslighting. As if to say Nothing Happened Here that we are responsible for or connected to. I was directed to Renses site once, what a mess. It is clear what that is about-would not touch it. Icke- number of pertinent questions I have for him. His sounds like a tall tale, with backers. Most of the rest are clickers. Truth is extrememly uncomfortable these days. It takes courage to feel it and balls to express it and DO something about it. Imagine these guys rolling in the dough can't actually DO anything-well they wouldn't would they? Fuck the Interweb.
DeleteMost of these guys are ex-journalists for the MSM. I'm beginning to get the feeling that they still work for the same people.
Deleteff
Lord, am I in the presence of greatness?
ReplyDeleteOpinions vary.
ReplyDeleteHe speaks again. Just starting this:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10K-5VG5u8
Unorganized thoughts on the vid:
ReplyDeleteGirly showed up in her purple nightie. Zendon blames "mainstream." Term "Christian" hijacked to provide shelter for the cult. Says we're jealous, self-righteous. Says we're taken in by fear and paranoia. Says alt community will buy anything. Calls us armchair generals. Says we're infected, bombarded. Says he's getting off Net. Sees it as opportunity. Girlie keeps nodding in her nightie. Zendon says close friends have are attacking. Says we'll regret our stance. It'll have consequences. Says we don't want him to live. Has no idea what we really want in terms of his coming clean, fully clean. Girly keeps sayin' 'No victim, no crime.' Can't seem to understand there were thousands of victims and that even though none can yet pin a direct occurrence on him, he advanced an organization that did these horrors. HE SOLD IT!! Again, those magazines; no one is bringing that up to him. How could he not have seen those?! Says he's gonna write about the whole thing. Says we're wounded, have triggers/latent anger. Are fucked-up by society. Asks what motivates those "leading the charge" with "vengence." All the motivation I've seen was born of a sense of justice, justice for the victims. Absolutely healthy outrage. Half done for now. Jeeze.
Didn't Bernard predict he would behave in this way? Come out on the attack?
ReplyDeleteIf one tells lies often enough, does one not come to believe oneself that the lie is the truth? The real truth becomes buried deep deep inside? ~Again, Bernard explains this so well.
He also explains just why there are so few abusers coming forward - they feel guilt and shame; Max needs to hear what Bernard has to say about this, as he is very clear.
This is why the abused are eternally bound to the abuser, it's guilt and shame , to come forward and say 'I was one of them' is impossible because these people are literally crippled with the terrible burden of these destructive emotions .
ReplyDeleteThis is only reason why there have been no victims coming forward.
The people who cite this as a reason are either naive or simply stupid .
http://www.counselling-directory.org.uk/counsellor-articles/give-it-back-breaking-through-the-shame-of-sexual-abuse
This is just one of the many articles on this subject freely available for anyone to read . Including the pathetic woman who did this interview .
My suggestion to the "girlies " is to grow up, get into the real world and do research that has at least some kind of validity
Terrible interview,absolutely sickening . But then there's always a book . and maybe when the dust has settled, a tour ? Isn't life just peachy ....?
You couldn't make this stuff up .
More unorganized thoughts on the vid:
DeleteSays we're projecting our inner demons onto him. Says we're not in the heart. Well, it's only the heart that causes this outcry. Without the heart, no one would care or speak up. Still taking stance of teacher/philosopher. Says "people who criticize" and haven't done what he's done, have "no place to criticize." Sure Zendon, we'll just go along and nod, like the girly in the nightie. Says what we do is offensive. Says we need humility. What we're doing is "beyond ludicrous/misguided." Such a need to make the challengers wrong and deficient. Says we need to simmer down, are sadly out of touch, uppity, haven't suffered, so don't understand. Calls us Sanhedrin. Girlie says we're back-biting. Zendon seems really happy and delighted. Complexion tells another story. Very red-faced. He tears up at the end. Wonder if he ever cried for those children. Says it's a good time to back off. I'm remembering two sayings: It's over when it's over, and It takes as long as it takes. Says he's seeing from "a very clear perspective." Could he see the faces of the kids? Could he see their shattered lives, what they have to deal with almost every day? Could he see all that?
At this point, his very presence on-line is an affront to our humanity. Only a psycho would hang around this long. Everyone else would've admitted to their phony confession and crawled under a rock by now.
ReplyDeleteff
~"Only a psycho would hang around this long."~
ReplyDeleteOr perhaps a psycho with an agenda full of ulterior motives....
I have prospected the Mel Ve "interview" for Micro-expressions and other nuggets; & the results are now posted along with the others.
Also be sure to watch CW Chanter's video responding to Max Igans embracing of Dirty Don.
Yeah, and at the same time, Zendon is continuing to prove the point/points of his detractors. This, from his article today:
ReplyDelete"This particular phenomenon regarding me is ironically being fueled by sources many have said they don’t trust – media hype and false and questionable or ill intentioned sources, as well as those with an ego driven agenda. .."
Zendon, ego-driven is, in many cases, not a bad thing. I refer not to the ego that falsely sets itself above another, but to that aspect of ego that shines with individuality and uniqueness, given by Creator. Every flower is not alike, nor every bird, nor every activist, nor... That is the positive side of ego. How sad and boring it would be if all was homogenized into sameness.
He goes on:
"It’s strange, too, how love is touted so much as being the answer by this same collective. We don’t really know what love is yet."
We don't really know what love is yet? Speak for yourself, Zendon. Yeah, it's infinite and ever changing, but it's never about force or cruelty. Has a lot to do with consideration. Love is pretty basic. I bet 7 billion can define it for you.
Him again:
"We say we believe in love yet we want justice. ... It’s time to transcend."
I'll go out on a limb and say love without justice is like water without wetness; one cannot exist without the other. Justice is the great balancing of the universe; the precision of existence. I don't think it can be escaped, except maybe by grace, and that is a very rare thing. Grace could move all this into the healing fire and bring about some good. I will expect it. Maybe "transcendence IS Grace.
And on the Rense/Icke interview last night: Wow (like you said, Chautauqua) the level of racism is really escalating, and the hate that Rense spewed at the opening of his show was stunning. Said Muslims are not human. Wow!
On Jeff and Davie: Well, it was actually BORING!! Shades of Alex Jones, 2009. Not a peep on ZG, 'cept for a few allusions to alt community needing to be careful it doesn't become mainstream. Icke says there's a "tremendous awakening" going on by many. Are they being awakened so they can be taught to ignore abuse and not stand for what's right? Carrying water and chopping wood, no matter what? Put down the water; stop chopping wood!! Children everywhere at risk of rape and torture, and torture takes many horrible forms, especially psychological. Jeff and Davie continue their two-hour love-fest (adoration) practically turning Davie into a god. All the while pushing Davie's upcoming U.S. tour. Wouldn't it be amazing if a good amount of protesters showed up with huge signs reading: Why the silence about Zen Gardner, Dave? Hee hee. Oh man, the new-age goo was just dripping and dripping, but sadly, likely oozing onto to young folks' tender ears. Ears that need hope for a better way than what's being offered. We could keep all the good new-age stuff, like positive thought, astrology, miracles, etc., and throw out of the phenomena that clutters, speculates, and adds nothing to the love.
Now I'm off to listen to C.W. Chanter taking on Max Igan and his stance in support of ZG. Should have a considerable use of the F word therein. Here's link if interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHwyMaouOA
Love is protecting your children from predators. Love is facing the truth about your past and coming clean instead of manipulating others for nefarious reasons I still don't fully understand.
ReplyDeleteGutless then and gutless now. I have no love for that.
ff
Love is walking through the fire because the alternative is unthinkable.
Deletelmao ..The screen shots are fucking awesome Chautauqua!! .. Its fuck up to see how people really grasp at every excuse to avoid (said with a massive loud speaker).ZEN/DON WAS A CHILD SEX CULT LEADER FOR 27 Y E A R S ...
ReplyDeleteits that simple
sorry my above comment was cut short .
The pics with Sitting bull are way funny .
Song to Zendon from...
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqql1V3t3II
Lyrics
If I had just one tear running down your cheek
Maybe I could cope maybe I'd get some sleep
If I had just one moment at your expense
Maybe all my misery would be well spent
Could you cry a little? Lie just a little?
Pretend that you're feeling a little more pain?
I gave, now I'm wanting something in return
So cry just a little for me
If your love could be caged, honey I would hold the key
And conceal it underneath the pile of lies you handed me
And you'd hunt and those lies - they'd be all you'd ever find
And that'd be all you'd have to know for me to be fine
And you'd cry a little
You'd die just a little
And baby I would feel just a little less pain
I gave, now I'm wanting something in return
So cry just a little for me
Give it up baby
A whimper would be fine
Some kind of clue that
You're doing time
Some kind of heartache
Honey, give it a try
I don't want pity
I just want what is mine
Could you cry a little? Lie just a little?
Pretend that you're feeling a little more pain?
I gave, now I'm wanting something in return
So cry just a little for me
(Could you cry?)
Could you cry a little for me?
Cry a little for me
Simply Awesome!!
DeleteVery nice catch, and an excellent ear as well.
Bookmarked Video
Adding to "Theme Songs" play list ...
Many thanks
zendon and all of the other psychos, apologists and sychophants the bell tolls. Do you here it yet? Its coming.
ReplyDeleteIt's come already
ReplyDeletezendiddy deady
Crying prick
Wounds to lick
See it in your death throws
Hissing, kissing, Judas knows
Keep referring to bible speak
We rejected that already freak
But you wanna preach so-more
Like a whinny lying PR whore
Think it over petty glamour
Micro expressions give you the hammer
Turn the other cheek now don
Be forgiving and be gone
When you keep ignoring truth
Phone keeps ringing in your booth
Awareness is a nasty bitch
When past scabs come home to itch
And the more you go to cover it
Wet word bandages smell like shit
Here's some advice you fake sage
There will be no end of days
Denier liars stay on the wheel
We are karma that's the deal
Don't even think why I do it
You had your chance and you blew it
If you want it all be undone
Take off your scab soak in the sun
But bare all with your best intent
And take on every consequence
"Hammer down good buddy"
DeleteMan when I prospected the May interview I was surprised to see so many Micro-expressions of Anger, and believe me, there were many that space would not allow for...Compare that first batch to the ones from the Mel Ve disaster!!
Is it just me or does he look about three times angrier in this latest pan full of nuggets? Now that I have uncovered the mother lode of micro-expressions from a total of 3 video appearances; wouldn't ya think he'd learn to shut the fuck up and stay off camera?! But no, not dirty donnie, the arrogant fuck just doesn't get it.
I heard he posted a swan song post on his cult website today...
"Setting Sail" or some such crap.
If the TV studios love reality survival shows as much as they evidently do, they should stick a crew with dirty donnie, follow him around to see when some pissed off survivor from COG recognizes him somewhere. Now THAT would be "must see TV".
You are rocking the rhymes bro!!
He is the supreme Narcissist who is now so totally immersed in his own 'legend'that he believes he is invincible .
ReplyDeleteThe" Steady as She Goes" article (another self serving self pitying diatribe) has become a place for the apologists and sycophants (and a previously critical blogger ) to declare their undying "luurve" .......love for a man who ran the media management for the most notorious sex cult in the world .
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Zen Gardner 01/09/2016 at 8:50 am
( ZG'S comment on Steady As She Goes) .
I’ll be migrating and morphing the site in time. If people want to help towards that, great. This one will go static. Too many trolls and concentrated attacks and just plain distractions and internet AI viruses. They can contact me if they want to know where I’m going and would like to help my transition. But I understand you’re impetus and appreciate it . We can chat privately.
The believers and belongers want to help fund another site ..... really !
This man is going nowhere .
Business as usual .
First he says he will be "Taking the site down"- that's an exact quote; OK, SHOW ME!!
DeleteNow he says the site will go static, (unmanned, no new posts) which is NOT equivalent to taking it down.
Do you see a pattern here?
When the expose was fresh he kept saying
"I'll answer questions SOON"
Which of course morphed into NEVER
Do you see any similarities here
to how our government operates?
Sound like another Donald to you?
Isn't it the same stench of feces?
Yes, we were all taken in by a con
The question we should ALL we asking right now is:
Just how big IS this con??
And exactly what are these "mind viruses"
dirty don keeps talking about??
Perhaps a dollop of truth
within the tapestry of LIES??
Here's something kinda revealing.
Night before last my business partner
dropped in for a visit as I was prospecting
the Mel Ve video for zendon Micro-expressions.
Feeling no need to conceal my work,
I left the screen with one of the more
unflattering photos of zendon prominent.
A few minutes later he asked me what I was working on,
So, without answering immediately, I responded with my own question,
asking my friend what that face was communicating to him.
Mt friend stared at zendons face for several seconds before saying:
"Well, obviously he's some sort of criminal...looks like a mug shot or line-up photo."
BINGfuckinO!!!
Take photos of the whole group: zendon, Rense, Icke, Rappaport, Visible, Igan, winkin, blinkin & nod...and to someone like my friend who is outside of the Alt. media circus, they would just look like any bunch of
THE USUAL SUSPECTS you might happen to see.
QUESTION EVERYTHING
CONDUCT DUE DILIGENCE
Or just get so disillusioned with all of it
you walk away without ever clicking on another such site
which is probably exactly the desired outcome.
What WAS it Stuart Wilde used to say about situations like this....??
Oh yeah, I remember now...
"VOTE WITH YOUR FEET"
Rense, Icke & the others are silent and complicit because they FEAR loosing what WE give them DAILY
They refer to it as "footfall"
We call it 'pageviews', or more to the point "CLICKS"!!!
It's ALL about the CLICKS, folks, because that's where their revenue stream comes from. And their BUSINESS is NOT enlightening anyone, their business is GETTING CLICKS.
"They" remained silent and complicit because they FEAR the split in readers on the zendon scandal would cost them CLICKS, and BUCKS. Fuck 'Em!
Here is what I suggest: FUCKING BOYCOTT all these motherfuckers!!
If that is unclear to anyone I'll say it again, BOYCOTT, vote with your feet; and DENY them their precious CLICKS. Spread the word across social media (remember the "Arab Spring") to fucking BOYCOTT these criminal co-conspirators. Just quit going to those sites, quit going to ANY spiritual site. GO FUCKING OUTSIDE, in nature - that's where your spirituality is.
You made me smile:)
DeleteMy very bright 16 year old daughter has always said that 'ZG' is a criminal an "agent " or 'something ' else ! When I showed her the' revelations' she just laughed ...... "told you so" out of the mouths of babes ......
There IS something else in his (ZG's) language , a message , something hidden , and I'm convinced this is not all as it seems , there are too many inconsistencies, there is something running quietly in the background, as the circus plays on . It's very familiar, it's how government works , distraction , misdirection, meanwhile the real agenda continues on without interruption. And , right now there are a huge number of 'agendas' to be implemented .
I had never been on Rense , until now, it just looked like a cheap market stall , it's obvious the "news " items are secondary to the adverts , it's a guaranteed revenue stream for whoever runs it .
Why do people go on there ? It's awful .
David Icke ,all of them , the same , it's all business , a money making machine.
Of course these people won't come out and condemn Zen , it go's against the principal that 'local ' businesses support each other :)) . Foot fall is everything in business .
Am I cynical ? Absolutely ! My mantra in this regard is : "And what's in it for you ?"
For these people it's the usual , money , fame, power , money, money ........
Of course we were all taken in by this man , these men, and in that there is no shame . Part of our natural human condition is to trust , if we didn't we would never survive because we'd be killing each other on site . But once we discover we have been (in this case) conned, we must question everything . My real shock regarding the ZenDon revelations is not the guru's lack of concern , ( I expected that ,because they are financially invested in the "truth movement") but the reaction of the commenters on his site . It proves how easily people are manipulated or worse still how many are lacking in any moral compass or true discernment . It's relativism , and that should scare the crap out of us .
Why people would think that they could find spirituality within anything these people promulgate is astonishing and their tainted love for these circus acts is not only deeply disturbing but very sad .
I posted something further down the thread on where true spirituality lies . It's not on the internet .
Zen is just one tiny part, though a major player on some levels. He ain't finished yet, they never are. Addicted to the dirty energy. As you say, he will be metamorphosed into another form to entrap more fumbducks who are so enamoured by their awakeness. The ones with some inner power who openly support him are more insidious and to a certain extent more dangerous as they trap more souls with their sticky 'oh so nice and awake' webs. Just batter this one down to oblivion.
ReplyDeleteJust asking... Could the burgeoning Ken O'Keefe scandal be a distraction from the Zendon scandal and its advancing of pedophilia?
ReplyDeleteMan, what a web. Just stumbled on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsAp0epFFv4
Now you understand why they called it the web.
DeleteA distraction from Don's issues - I was wondering the same thing; just a bit too much of a coincidence that Max chooses now to spill the beans when he says he has been sitting on if for several months, and he has chosen to defend Don…….
DeleteMick~
ReplyDeleteYup, rinse & repeat; and there's a sucker born every minute.
He can change everything about himself -except that face.
this all just goes to show how nothing is greed-proof. People will always find a way to commercialize everything, including spirituality.
Make that dollar anyway you can, nothing else matters.
That which is right, and proper takes a backseat to business.
Every fucking time - and we seem to be just fine with that.
When ya have your boot on the neck of a predator
know the other predators will protect their own
Now watch this cat video
Egan (infamous Zendon supporter) weighs in on O'Keefe scandal on Ritchie Allen (Icke's buddy) show last night. The club is sure tight-knit:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vQYjb-wVEk
Oh, it isn't a club my friend....
DeleteIt's a conglomerate....
Just keep peeling back the layers
like an onion
made of SHIT
I bet Zendon is happy/relieved that Ken will take some of the heat off of him. But then again, maybe each actor is playing his part right on time. What's/who's next?
ReplyDeleteLord only knows what dark scheme is out there. Well, still, we do what good we can in our sphere of influence.
Now you're sniffing down the right path.
DeleteThis whole thing stinks of a company op.
Dive, conquer, discredit, disillusion the awakened and aware ones...
It's called "stealing fire" ...
As if somebody pissed all over the fire in the collective belly.
Plus...
Something is happening elsewhere...
MSM has been 'teasing' about an unknown "something" out there a few light years distant that recently showed up on sensors & radar or whatever they use at that range. Dropping breadcrumbs about "full disclosure" regards UFO's/Aliens. Zendon's shitstorm might have been planned as psyop to fuck things up just prior to whatever the fuck is coming next.
Whatever IT is, whatever shape the 'event' takes, it is on it's way ...
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DeleteSince Fukushima most everything just doesn't make sense and lately even more than ever. It's mindblowing all the creeps out there - zendon's dirty past shedding (shitting) some light on all these other putz's money grubbing AND ugliness in the 'Truther' genre. Everything now - all the corruption, nwo is blowing up and blatant it's just in everyone's face. Disillusionment. Disgusting politicians. The shit keeps hitting the fan more and more, along with these violent earth changes (seismic, climate), with ufo/alien activity ramping up as well.
DeleteAny thoughts on 'IT' being something to do with Darkstar, Nemesis, Nibiru, Planet X, Wormwood, -- whatever it is called (our alleged binary solar system)? No telling, not knowing.
Everything you mentioned, and everything we're seeing in the world that seems so bizarre- they're all the prime indicators of earth being firmly in 4th dimensional time-space resonance. (We sure ain't in 'Kansas' anymore)
DeleteThat is exactly why nothing looks or feels right.
We were all born into 3rd dimensional time-space resonance; and THAT went bye-bye some time ago. The difference was subtle at first, so few noticed. They're paying attention NOW.
Just reviewing Rappoport's note of support and appreciation to Zendon. Again, a few quotes from it:
ReplyDelete"You owe no apologies to anyone."
"Your voice is strong. It needs no guilt threaded through it."
"If there are nitpickers and 'gotcha idiots' out there, ignore them. They have no lives."
"There are many people in this world who ought to confess to what they’ve done and what they’ve failed to do. You are not one of them."
"... people suck on the teat of guilt and use it for their own ends."
"You’re on the high, high end of consciousness. Way on the plus end. So fuck it, and onward!"
Well, I'm tempted to say, f*#k YOU, Jon, but I won't. Rather I'll just say, Go away mosquito. You're messing up the party.
Well Chautauqua, my concern is that these guys, the bigger names, will just wait this out, wait for it all to settle down and just go on doing what they do, like getting away with murder. Not that they murdered anyone per se, but they attempted to murder true resistance and revelation. Rense, Icke, Les Visible, Igan, Rappoport, are these the real enemy? Those who protect the perps, some simply avoiding the whole thing completely; some actually saying: "I just don't know?" Well, do ya know the sun comes up every day? Ice is cold? Fire is hot? The sun sets every night? How obvious can it get? Oh, that question that is so often asked: How do you sleep at night? Well, how do you? Ever see in your dreams the pained faces of those imprisoned and exploited children? Yeah, we'll all slowly let go, and it'll go in the file with all other crimes unattended. But the heart will remember and the soul will wait. Yeah, we'll all slowly let go.
What WAS it Stuart Wilde used to say about situations like this....??
DeleteOh yeah, I remember now...
"VOTE WITH YOUR FEET"
Rense, Icke & the others are silent and complicit because they FEAR loosing what WE give them DAILY
They refer to it as "footfall"
We call it 'pageviews', or more to the point "CLICKS"!!!
It's ALL about the CLICKS, folks, because that's where their revenue stream comes from. And their BUSINESS is NOT enlightening anyone, their business is GETTING CLICKS.
"They" remained silent and complicit because they FEAR the split in readers on the zendon scandal would cost them CLICKS, and BUCKS. Fuck 'Em!
Here is what I suggest: FUCKING BOYCOTT all these motherfuckers!!
If that is unclear to anyone I'll say it again, BOYCOTT, vote with your feet; and DENY them their precious CLICKS. Spread the word across social media (remember the "Arab Spring") to fucking BOYCOTT these criminal co-conspirators. Just quit going to those sites, quit going to ANY spiritual site. GO FUCKING OUTSIDE, in nature - that's where your spirituality is.
That is always the end result. Talk with your feet. Walk away. The 'new world' we are lookong for cannot include this shit. A Big ole black out would be great right about now. Shut this garbage down. There is nothing left except you, your family and your neighbours. That is it. Everything beyond that is, as your image describes-the truth as macrocosm and lies as the microcosm. I can't find very much out there and I look, like many of us do for answers on-line. They are NOT there. Not the Big ones anyway. It is your relationship with the people around you, animals, your garden, trees, water, the sky, your dreaming etc. That is where it is. Not here. This is as illusionary as the rest of it. Want Truth-Go Outside. Pay attention to the beings in your vicinity. Love and care for your space around you.
ReplyDeleteI also had the thought of "boycott" and I hope the idea catches. And yes, balancing with nature and loving family and friends is the beauty and the healing. Yet, I cannot fully look away or I will feel like I played right into their hands; like they got me where they want me and it's one less "useless eater" for them to worry about. I stay on my perch with little breaks here and there. And what's that old Arabic proverb? Trust in God but tie up your camel.
ReplyDeleteWell said ! Spirituality isn't found on the internet or in the musings of an online guru
ReplyDeleteSpirituality, is found in everyday living by everyday ordinary people .Life is wonderful , terrible , and absolutely glorious ,its everything and all there is here on this earth . The smallest gesture of loving kindness can make the biggest difference ,like ripples on a pond it spreads outwards and can touch everyone, so love it all , love your family , your friends , your neighbours, love your life .... it all matters, we are all important and special . Believe me , at the end of your life , this internet of things will all fade away into insignificance , the only thing that will matter to you is how well you loved and how much you were loved . It's all there is ... it's that simple .
Turn off the 'spiritual ' internet , you're living your spirituality everyday , it's what life is all about .
grt thx
ReplyDeleteA reader yesterday hit the nail on the head squarely when they commented something to the effect that last year when Jeff put the site up for sale, they didn't realize that HE was selling out as well! Spot on!!
ReplyDeleteI quit giving Rense ANY credibility the day he crawled up Trumps ass so far he can see thru Donalds teeth!! NOT the Rense of years gone by. The man sold out.
Rense is irrelevant. As are all the rest! click $$ click $$ click $$
Simple as that
NOTE:
ReplyDeleteNetflix has the original documentary "Children of God" - Excellent insights!!
use the Netflix Search feature & it comes right up.
bradley loves wrote an article on the children of god 2yrs ago, he has just reposted it. you can find his great blog here https://lovetruthsite.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/the-children-of-god-religious-cult/
ReplyDelete.
Thank you Chautauqua for the chance to post on this.
ReplyDeleteI haven't read or heard alot of what Zen/Don has written and said about all this, but I'm reading that people are saying that he just isn't answering questions properly (or at all). Also, with what I have actually seen from him so far, I haven't seen valid questions being satisfactorily answered. And, he is also moderating comments (I was already on undeserved comment moderation before this all happened, and so I am fairly sure that more commenters are now being unfairly moderated - i know that David has been moderated and I'm almost certain that Kitty would now be on moderation or maybe even banned). And soo, are we only by design seeing an almost one-sided comment stream on his site??? This is not good enough Zen. Where is the living in the truth that you love to talk about?
I just want to know the truth. Is that not fair enough Zen? I am not here to condemn you for your past. I'm more interested right now in how you behave in the present. Right now, it appears that you are being purposely evasive and deflective in the most important "present". Can I trust you Zen. Can others? I want to be able to, but you need to help out here please.
I'm sure there are DOZENS of disallowed comments for every one published. Only the supportive comments are published, leading to a transparently one-sided comment section. One of my comments was pulled and I was put on moderation. This is how I know for sure.
DeleteI told you awakened luvvies a long time ago about this lizard.
DeleteM44~
DeleteActually, several of us are of the notion that not only are the glowing, positive comments the only ones getting thru 'moderation'~~but that the small, cowardly creature is actually the author of most if not all of those supportive comments posted.
I believe that dirty don is more than unhinged enough to do exactly that. However I do NOT believe he is writing ALL of those responses. That site certainly IS an online cult, zero doubt of THAT; and some of the 'denizens' & zenophytes have been there loyally for nearly six years, maybe more.
THAT sir, is a testament to the enduring power of mind control. It's the glue that held COG together, and what holds "The Family" together to this day. Mind control is also why McWeasel Eyes still has a handful of die-hard followers. Never forget we're dealing with an unbalanced, deranged master of mind control.
I, on the other hand, am VERY interested in his past.
ReplyDeleteHe's still censoring Michael It isn't moderation , that's just PC crap to be honest . Anyone who is even slightly critical or questioning . It's outrageous
ReplyDeleteI'm sure I'm banned , I was getting very close before this happened and I'd consider it a badge of honour . I have a lot to say to "Zen " not one word of it would allowed on that site .
You can't possibly trust ZG, he's a stranger to truth , honour, decency , all the things that normal human beings are and aspire to . It's not something he understands or cares about . The truth is he's a bad man , his past is who and what he is now , no change there he is as he is , he's never going to be any different .
If you look at the stills of ZG further up this article and really analyse them , what do you see ? (I think Chautaqua said that some were from three months ago ) It means that the contemptuous frankly scary expressions are always there, they are not only there when he is under severe duress . Those faces are him . They are an outward reflection of what's going on internally It's not a good look
The truth is this man was a high powered director of the media management side of a vile disgusting and depraved sex cult The direction for this cult and it's ethos of abuse came from the top and filtered downwards
In the 90s (when ZG was still in the COG ) there were numerous arrests in many different countries some as far away as Australia. This means that the abuse was systemic and not as ZG has implied only in isolated pockets .
It was his job to manage the media and the COG responses to the allegations and ensuing arrests . To say he was "unaware " is ridiculous .
ZG is still" media managing" because it's his job , it's what he does , 27 years remember ! He practices something called Bullshit Baffles Brains and believe me he's baffled a lot of gullible people on his cult website ,( which by the way had many of the COG doctrines within the articles there) .
These misguided people believe their out pouring of love and misplaced inappropriate forgiveness is a sign of their superior spirituality , it isn't , it's just nauseating stupidity
I love this beautiful saying :
To be as wise as the serpent , yet gentle as the dove .
Now is the time to be wise , leave the gentleness for another day
K
K~
DeleteYour thoughts and comments are always welcome on this forum...that's kinda why it even exists.
All you say is just spot on; you have truly seen thru his disguise.
On Netflix, enter search cue "Children of God" & what comes up is a 1994 era documentary on the COG cult. It's a British production...However it contains many excellent camcorder clips originally recorded by COG members to be sent to Mo David Berg...OK here it is: On three different occasions
I heard the unmistakable* voice of one DON FERGUSON doing the narration!
*After the number of 'his' videos I have prospected for Micro-expressions, that face & voice are burned into my brain. It IS his voice on a couple of those COG "home videos".
Only one in a pack of rat bastards Hey, The NEW rat pack!!
Chautauqua,
DeleteI was wondering about the voice doing some of the narration on the COG video. Sounds right to me.
All we need now is an old video in which COG PR man Don is telling us the same lies then as he is now. Just like their PR man at the end of the COG video, all those in this position do is lie while previous recordings prove it.
ff
Hi Chatauqua. I too liked that comment at your Freedom of Speech article dissing Rense's For Sale sign ($$$$), his stable of nags and Donnie's high fructose corn syrup production.
ReplyDeleteOne little noticed sidestory to include on this topic of icon apocalypse, is that Zendo, Max, and Ken (with Larkin Rose, Luke Rudkowski, and Adam Kokesh) were announced as attendees of Jeff Berwick's Anarchapulco gathering in February. You can find the whole gallery of their company at the Anarchapulco site.
When I googled 'Jeff Berwick fraud', this came up-
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=52178
The company is what some keep, by choice, at least until they purge it up.
Thank you Chatauqua :) I'm hoping Michael responds to me . Michael was a thorn in the side of a group of very self righteous people on ZG , he wasn't afraid to question these people and many of the trending subjects that become doctrine in the Alt community . His comments were constantly being censored for what was critical thinking .
ReplyDeleteI hope he's able to do some research of his own .
Wow ! ZG has a very distinctive voice , I'd recognise it anywhere .
I'll look and listen . Obviously he was still very invested in COG and the 90s were when arrests in multiple countries took place .
New Rat Pack , yes ! or in his case the King is Dead long live (the same ) King .
Maybe the new self appointed chattering (spiritual ) classes will waft their way over in your direction and read the information here and make decisions based on something other than pseudo spiritual woo . I'm still waiting for someone on ZG to ask about the welfare of the children and young people who were the real victims in all this instead of emoting and handwringing over ZG
Not holding my breath .
Would you know if there is any other way to watch that COG documentary, for those who do not have Netflix? So curious to hear that voice!! What a find.
ReplyDeleteI only have one thing to say about Don .......
ReplyDelete" Ponytail !!?? ..... get real !!! "
Freefall, your poetry freaking ROCKS!
ReplyDeleteWith reference to Bradley Loves account of the young boy to whom sex with anyone was "normal" as he had been told this and lived this since the age of 5…
ReplyDeleteThis was this boy's reality; could it also be that this was Don's reality, and so he didn't "see" any abuse because sex with children was the "normal", it was their reality, it was his reality. It was not abuse; so, no, he didn't see any abuse! He didn't take part in any abuse! It wasn't abuse in his book!
Ted Kacynski was going to expose the intelligentsia's plan to place new age
ReplyDelete" evangelists " on the internet, but he was never given his day in court.
This is a great video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLqrVCi3l6E
"The Outlaw", whom I've never heard of before today; recently posted his two reasons for removing ZG's link from his website. The entire (short) post has been added to the Link Fest at the top of this post: but I wanted to share here-his second reason because it's a really great point in this conversation the community is having.....
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"My second reason; Is that immediately following the story about his one-time cult membership taking the Alternative Media by storm, Gardner made the conscious decision to be interviewed by none other than one Angela Power Disney, who single-handedly runs the YouTube channel ‘Angela’s Caches’ which broadcasts on the ‘Conscious Consumer Network’ which is in turn, run by Mel Ve, who has an easily-researched history of pushing a number of pernicious hoaxes and spreading disinfo, and who actually charges the lucky ‘broadcasters’ given access to her CCN network.
Ms Disney, who alongside her other online ‘misdemeanors’, has contributed more than most to perpetuate the ‘Hampstead Satanic Child Abuse/Murder Ring’ story, which has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be a complete hoax, and has had a singularily unpleasant and long-lasting effect on a large number of completely innocent Hampstead residents.
So my reasoning is this;
If Zen Gardner can knowingly share a platform with proven charlatans without doing any research whatsoever, and not even be aware of the very well documented history of Ms. Disney, then how can the Outlaw in all conscience, continue to publish a link to his website?"
I just reread the comments on Zendon's last (so far) article. The dripping sugar turns it all into a blessed canonization from the coven of sinner-saints to their leader. I was especially struck with comments from Noor who had originally written a charge against him. Here are some excerpts from her initial response:
Delete"Zen, I cannot believe that you were a victim here for all those years. I wrote about the COG years ago and never lost my feeling of utter disgust at their practices. You, Zen, are a strong intelligent and creative insightful man and, as one who does understand the cult mind-set, I say where there is a will there is a way to escape. If I had had even a whiff of such things going on around my family, I would have gotten the hell outta Dodge. You had options but chose not to take them or do what was right at the time. Your mind was not that weak and gullible; I do not believe that for a second. I question the level of scruples of your readers who are so understanding as if your writings of matters metaphysical undoes the damages done to those you interacted with (or did not help) in those euphemistically titled 'lost years.' Would they be so understanding were their family members effected? ... ...I am disillusioned to the core with this."
Now Noor backpedals with this. Again, excerpts:
"Zen I wish you well in your next endeavours. You have certainly been put to the test here. I admit i was shocked when I received my first email from a stranger regarding you and, after the initial jolt, did my usual ~ just sat back and observed how things shook out. I had no idea this blew out of proportion as it did. Coming from my exposure over the years in this milieu, it comes as no surprise that this was used to discredit you. Anything that touches the lightness of spirit so necessary for life is a moving target for the dark side. Personally, I am so tired of the strife and the death of the 'movement...' ... ...the emotional toll can be, as you know, heavy. Take time off. Write a book… but by all means carry on. ... Keep me on your list please."
So, who's payin' you, Noor? Gotta keep up with the big guys? Says after her 'initial jolt' she 'just sat back and observed how things shook out.' That's the problem, Noor (whoever you are), you joined the sitting back club with Icke, Rense, and Less (additional 's' intentional) Visible. Sitting back and doing nothing for those kids!! Says things 'blew out of proportion." So how 'out of proportion' were the horrendous abuses on those children? Keep sitting back, and watch while the water comes to your door. Well, at least you're getting some exercise on your bike, with all that back-peddling. Maybe you'll make it all the way back to Sodom and Gomorrah where anything goes, even the raping of children. Keep sitting back, girl; sad to say, you have much company.
Is that a rhetorical question ?
DeleteChautauqua, are you going to retract what you wrote about me or not? I mean there is absolutely NO evidence within any of the blogs that supports your assertion
DeleteGet A Life, Rollo...
DeleteThere still may be time for you
So slander is the norm here as well ..... like the garden ? .... how sad.
DeleteHow's this then,
DeleteGO FUCK YOURSELF,
You whiny little cunt!
Now run back to your master & tell him THAT goes DOUBLE for HIM
You had 1 chance here,
I gave you 3
GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!
Boy, would I like the back-story on this one.
Delete...just one of those die-hard zenophytes,
Deletewanting to be heard despite having nothing to say.
Again, you people talk way too much. Get off the net, stop feeding lizards (take it as metaphorical) and do the proper work. Are you that thick? You whitter on about being awake yet you prove the opposite. C your site is great, much too vociferous, but that's your style. Both this and Zen's is going nowhere except to feed the grid.
ReplyDeleteEvery word, typed with the highest integrity one can muster, is like a storm-trooper going in to do the job, to relentlessly face down the enemy. Each decides for him or herself when the mission is complete. And even then there may come unsuspected fallout or residue that beckons a response. We are who we are in each moment, each instant. I applaud those who go the distance and remind myself to be sure to restore with friends and nature.
DeleteDon't tell us what to do. :) !
DeleteRight on, Adaline!!
ReplyDeleteJust landed on this affirmation. Just wanted to share it because I found it helpful and believe it's good for the spaces in between crises. Not sure who wrote it, but...
ReplyDelete"I can bring my focus back to myself and look at what I think, feel, and want."
Found this latest statement from O'Keefe on a blog. It adds his facebook link. I'm not on facebook so can't prove this, but here it is. Looks like the gloves are on:
ReplyDeleteWhile I will take no satisfaction in witnessing the implosion of Max Igan, I am more excited to do tomorrow's interview with Richie Allen than I have been for any interview in years. Sitting back and having a reasonable look at some of the conclusions people have made over the last week makes it clear that the phenomenon of an abundance of idiots and agents within the “activist”, “Truther” scene is undeniable.
The fact that Max has blatantly lied in public, lies that will be proven false tomorrow, only affirms for me that Max is not in a healthy state of mind. I can imagine that when his “supporters” realise this, and are forced to confront the fact that they were nothing but manipulated attack dogs for their chosen master. I am sure he is going to know serious rage when said people further realise that his motivations were petty, ego based rants, and with no basis in truth.
For my part I have been very calm and excited for the mission this week, so many of the things I knew we would face are going to be dealt with in one fell swoop and the actual work will only accelerate once such distractions are dealt with.
I encourage EVERYONE to tune into the Richie Allen Show tomorrow at 8pm UK time (GMT). Please share this post and make sure that everyone who has an opinion about me and/or the mission tunes in to hear my response to the criminal and moral charges Max has levied against me.
Lastly, since I hold irrefutable evidence that destroys the lies I know how this is going to play out. Thus I also know that we are on the verge of a real opportunity to grow, if we have the integrity to deal with the guilty until proven innocent mentality that many of us hold, think of Guantanamo. I hope we make the most of it.
I also look forward to people realising that I did everything I could (within reason) to avoid this public circus, precisely because I knew it would destroy Max's credibility and feed the infighting agenda the powers that be want and encourage at every turn. Nonetheless I intend to turn this apparent negative into something truly good and protect the mission as I must do.
Make no mistake, the mission is stronger than ever for this controversy and I look forward to sharing with you tomorrow some information never yet revealed, including legal and lawful issues that are worth their weight in Gold. Please share far and wide.
TJP
https://www.facebook.com/KOKTJP/?fref=ts
And this also, from Ken:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/KOKTJP/?fref=tstaken from d/icke thread page. https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=303184&page=14
Currently listening to Ken on Ritchie Allen. He's pissed. Is fighting with Ritchie.
ReplyDeleteThe link for Ritchie Allen show:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.richieallen.co.uk/
Kengate - We have a right to involve ourselves in this. These voices have extended themselves to the public for years. Trust and affinity were fostered. Now questions come into play, big questions where integrity is on the line. The listeners and contributors most certainly deserve answers.
ReplyDeleteThis is more than Mercury (we're 7 days in) Retrograde; it's like some kind of planetary cleansing where much dirty laundry is being aired. Not all owners of that laundry want it washed.
Hope Ken doesn't have a stroke. He was so lit up/enraged. Because he was so reactive it was hard to hear his valid points. A second listening helped. I am not ready to throw him under the bus. That is not to say he's perfect; no one is, but I look back at his body of work and the inroads made, and how he's gone where few have. We shall see what he offers (as he said he would) in the next few days. But oh boy, dignity feels so far away.
Wonder what Zendon is doing today. This sure has moved the spotlight a bit.
How about a mood-piece?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqfBe1pskFs
I will be doing more research and I am fairly sure of what I will find i.e as much as I trust anybody’s feelings/intuition/views from Zen’s site, I trust Kitty’s, David’s, and freefall’s. Also, yes, there is a feeling of authenticity on your site Chaut, along with what I have read from some other internet commenters about Zen/Don…... But, it’s just that,… I want to ensure that I have looked into things myself so that I don’t jump the gun with anything I say. I need to do my due diligence, and I will. I think that Zen/Don deserves that. Again, what I will say is that I am feeling very uncomfortable with what I have read so far regarding Zen’s reaction to all of this, along with his published commenter’s reactions (Where is the questioning???)
ReplyDeleteJust regarding Don’s past, (Hi Anonomous) I believe that redemption for all of us is possible, but, that the more evil the act that any of us has committed, then the higher the price we will have to pay in order to experience that redemption. It’s not that I don’t care about Don’s past. On the contrary, I care very much, but it’s just that his past will still be there in a few weeks time. And yes, I am a sucker for redemption, but that said redemption comes from actions made or not made since the evil act was committed. That is what I am meaning in my previous post.
To K.
What a breath of fresh air you were on that site. You helped to ease my pain when dealing with, to use your words, -
“The new self appointed chattering classes” and believers in “pseudo spiritual woo”.
I love it. You are on fire girl.
Just a quick note to you Chaut/Chat, I think that you may have made a mistake regarding Rollo. My understanding is that he/she was banned from Zen’s site b4 I came to Zen/Don’s site. I also haven’t seen any posts here from Rollo suggesting that he is a Zen apologist. Maybe I’ve missed something but it would be good if you can recheck what Rollo is meant to have said.
Again Chautauque, thank you for your site.
I know not who "Rollo" is/was/will be.
DeleteI bear no ill will towards whoever that is
I simply do not have the time or inclination
to minister to a wounded ego who cannot
let it go and move on.
Rollo, you said something at one point that
sounded squarely in donzens corner, you took his side.
Your comment was published,
What the fuck more do you want???
It isn't about YOU!!!
Zendon is still censoring questioning (?) (ironic) comments off of his site. I took some screenshots to prove it. He is also still bathing in the verbal diarrhea of adoring hangers on there, still drinking from the koolaid.
DeleteRedemption is possible for those who come clean, and do something in reparations for whoever they victimized. It is not a given. Redemption is NOT for any who resist acknowledging the truth about themselves, as painful as it can be.
Adaline~
DeleteAs pathetic as it is, the situation you describe is a lasting testament to the power of mind control; and a textbook example of insanity.
The truly sad thing in all this is that under the protection of the alt. news gatekeepers slippery little Donnie will be allowed to just re-group and do it all over again. You just wait & see: we have not heard the last of this scumbag. He will surface again, with any luck it'll be in a compost pile in some Latin American country! :)
FINAL comment Re: "Rollo"
ReplyDeleteIn a recent post I made the statement that since Rollo is posting pro-zen comments about the pedophile fake guru, he must be Dons 'boy', his ankle-biter, his personal little troll. Rollo took exception to this and DEMANDED a retraction or apology or some daft crap; without offering a single syllable of evidence as to why my assertion was incorrect. Retraction NOT forthcoming, Rollo proceeds to prove my point by conducting himself as a whiny little bitch troll, intent upon disrupting this forum. I will not allow that. Since none of Rollos comments have added anything meaningful to this discussion, and all he wants is to sow disruptive bullshit he is officially banned from this forum.
Oh, please don't ban ANYONE!! Better to allow all voices (except for harmful threats) than to block. Tiresome as it can get, it's better to confront.
Delete"....he is officially banned from this forum."
DeleteNice decision " comrade ".
Damn skippy straight ..
DeleteHappens to be MY blog & forum,
which I'll run as I damn well please.
You & Rollo are free to go start your own blog
if you are so passionate...You could name it
"Whiny little Bitches R US" ...
ain't no trolls hijacking this one!
Honest question: What's the difference 'tween banning and censorship?
DeleteYes, an honest & valid question
DeleteI'm only too happy to answer.
Someone is banned for behavior
Someone is censored for ideas.
What's Your pleasure?????
Well, I'm not really sure I even know what a troll is. I guess they are troublemakers and plant disinfo. I've had to leave so many sites because of censorship and banning. I will sit with your words and see if something comes to light for me. Often the opposition brings opportunity for taking a stronger stand. In the short time I've been here I have shared the stirrings of my soul as best I could. I hope I can continue.
DeleteGenerally speaking folks do just fine here until they start
Deletemaking demands and trying to make the discourse about them.
there are several million blog sites out there where such
ego based thrill seekers are welcome...
This ain't one of them.
Speak your mind; hell use cuss words if it helps,
Lord knows I do,
As long as what you offer is reasonable
and non abusive, it's an open forum...
We’ve reached the point where we now see a clear difference between the drop-outs and the sell-outs. The sell-outs are the ones leading this so-called Truth Movement. We drop-outs are the fools who have been supporting them.
ReplyDeleteWhat we’re seeing now is the same re-packaged bullshit we get from the MSM. This whole thing is starting to smell like an orchestrated collapse. Why should it be any different than all their other scams?
Just as the money masters co-opted and eventually shut down the counter culture movement of the 60’s, it now looks like they’re doing the same thing with the Truth movement—with a little help from their shills.
If this is the case, that’s fine by me. I’ve received my wake-up call loud and clear.
Time to put my life to better use than sitting around listening to a bunch of psychos.
ff
I think you're right about "orchestrated collapse." Some of us are about the business of learning who all the players (paid actors) are. Some of that is a good use of my time 'cause it may lead to helping to bring down the house of cards.
DeleteAnon,
DeleteIn order to bring them down, it's a passive-active approach that must be employed. Depending upon your calling, some should ignore them out of existence while others expose their criminal behavior. Do what you're given to do.
We really don't need them anymore. It's not up to someone else whether the individual awakens or not. When they are ready, the teacher will appear. As we continue to awaken, we all become teachers. The only reason I follow on-line boards is that there are those on there that can teach me also.
ff
If my toes are stepped on, I involve myself, and an attack on the culture steps on my toes. Once in a while letting go is called for, but more often than not, standing up is. I guess for me, to not respond to their deceit would be like enabling that lie. If it comes into my purview, it's almost like God saying, Okay, what are you gonna do with this? Man, being on earth requires much.
DeleteWell, ZenDon is writing again. What happened to that submarine? Latest article: "Are You Awake? Or Just Informed?"
ReplyDeleteHere's an extraction that as I read between the lines, seems to want to put anyone not on his vibrational level into a place called "Shadowland." See what you might read into it:
"...once this truth is discovered, in fact experienced as it must be, the majesty of existence opens up to such glorious vistas of empowerment and possibility the very grip of any and all external influences and limiting mind conceptions falls away as if it never existed in the first place. Because it essentially didn’t. It was only real from a deliberately manipulated limited perception that created a feedback loop of illusion, giving the appearance that there were no other possibilities outside that manufactured realm. ... ...our weaponry of truth out matches their foolish artificial 3-D hardware to such an extent they will be exposed to be the imposters they are – nothing but dark shadows trying to usurp the sun."
ZenDon, that "loop of illusion" you mention, may just be the truth stripped down without its Sunday clothes, the voices of those not sucked into phenomena but here in the present calling 'em as we see 'em. The decorations look so ornate when REAL truth stands tall with all its pain, suffering, hardship. You can't glorify hunger, just like you can't glorify child-abuse. Is that "3-D" enough for ya?!! "Impostors," my butt.
Thanks for the update...
DeleteGuess there is an open ended time limit on "shutting the site down"
As he's 3 times now promised to do
Just more lies, that's all
Today I awoke to the news flooding my inbox that the "Just Wondering" website is down; only meditation videos remain; AND the domain has been sold!
DeleteSong for Tuesday:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgpMEhEqEhg
I involved myself with this submission/expose for quite a long time. 3 plus weeks actually. I had to drop it for a bit and get some distance. I was never into the alt. community ALA: Rense, Icke, blah blah. I only read comments on ZDs site and most of them were inconsequential. Some were good, thought provoking and informative. More I was just curious and assessing what a collective of thought might be around awareness, at this particular moment-online. But, I knew something was off at ZDs. I knew there were gatekeepers, spammers, trolls etc. Not all but probably most.
ReplyDeleteAt this point, I see a POS that won't go away. No surprise there. They dont. They dont have any shame or guilt, etc. They are not like me or you, who actually care about taking Good care of people.
In my experience pyschos are always a portal of some kind that force you to be More Aware, assess your instincts and values, and whatever else it is you have to do (by your own calling).
Psychos are a dime a dozen. I don't have an outright solution to this problem. What I did do as well as others, was to call it out Loudly and Vociferously. As in to jar those who were caught unaware.
That is what my soul called me to do, despite the extreme discomfort.
I dont know DFs history, only what was exposed and what he admitted to. Until further information comes to light, this is where I leave it. This has done significant damage to their profitable community-Great! I take that as a BIG win!
Yes, it is a big win, even though the site is not completely shut down it almost is. It is a big win. Seems we have more power than we know.
Delete"Redemption is possible for those who come clean, and do something in reparations for whoever they victimized. It is not a given. Redemption is NOT for any who resist acknowledging the truth about themselves, as painful as it can be."
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you Adaline.